Given how much my local group has enjoyed playing Dragon Rampant I suspect that my Pikeman's Lament army is going to find it self facing fantasy opponents on a regular basis. One could simply use Pikeman's Lament troops as Frank and I did in our last game. That said it seems to me that by mixing and matching you can probably get a game with more flavor.
Cavalry: The fewest changes are needed here. Troops that charge straight at their foes are Gallopers, those who seek to disrupt with shooting then strike are Trotters and those that prefer to skirmish are dragoons.
Dave's mounted Dwarves(facing my knight above) could be classed as Gallopers, Elite Gallopers or Aggressive Gallopers depending on his preference. My knights could be counted the same way. I would give cavalry armed with bows a 1 point up grade giving them a ranged attack of 6+/Range 12" hitting on 5+ but they would loose counter-charge (this could not be combined with Aggressive). That said Bow armed troops might be just as effectively portrayed using the dragoon profile but there could be some special cases, like Centaurs or High Elf cavalry in a fantasy setting.
I might consider making Wolf/warg riders (especially if they have spears or javelins) trotters, since they might not want to charge a unit of armored humans or elves head on but would be quick to strike if they sensed weakness.
Dragoons and Light riders are pretty much synonymous you could bring over the sort range missile modification if you really wanted to.
Fantastical rules: Any for Gallopers and Trotters. Dragoons are bared from Spellcaster, summoner and Cleric/Slayer.
Forlorn Hope works for most Elite infantry. The fact that Pikeman's lament assumes a shooting characteristic for elite infantry actually makes it better from most points of view. If you want to portray heavily armed Melee beast you just take aggressive and you get better "armor" and lose the ability to shoot. You can add Any of the fantastical rules to Forlorn Hope.
I would retain Elite infantry for large Fantasy beasts. When/if my Bones III dragon ever get here I pan to use Elite Infantry+Fly+Missiles for a 10 point total to portray him. I feel it makes sense to start the Higher Armor/Stamina for these troop types and then add a shooting ability if its warranted.
Pikemen: OK now we get to the signature unit of Pikeman's Lament. Depending on how you build them the are a lot like either Heavy Foot or Light Foot. The Reach of the pike is a major part of the unit profile but for me the key difference is the close order special rule that really distinguishes them form other melee focused infantry. To that end I would suggest you use this troop type not just for troops armed with long pointy sticks but for any fantasy combatants that are considered highly disciplined. Dwarven infantry with their tendency to form tight formation and drive into their less disciplined foes could be portrayed as Pikemen.
Use Heavy Foot with the Offensive upgrade for units like Orc/hobgoblin swordsmen, trolls, ogres and other fantasy types that just don't have the pikemans discipline. You could use the pikeman profile if you want but I think they will work better using the DR unit Profile.
The Light Foot profile can be used with the Offensive profile for lightly armed troops like Goblins or Hobbits. I also think there is merit to holding on to the light foot with with the mixed weapons profile. This might be good for portraying units with uneven equipment or even local militia with training better than the typical club men.
Heavy and Light foot can also be used to portray historical troops that are not typical of Western Europe that don't really fit the Tribesmen profile. Janissary, Mameluke and the soldiers of the Mughal empire come to mind (from my casual reading not focused study).
The above should be eligible for any fantastical rules upgrade.
Tribesmen can replace Bellicose Foot. You might want to bring over the "Terrifically Shiny Armor" upgrade for dwarf berserkers or other hard to kill types. They can have any Fantastical rules except Spellcaster, Summoner and Cleric/Slayer
The Shotte Profile should be used with all long range missile weapons yes bows have a greater rate of fire but Muskets have more penetration and knockdown power against armored targets call it a wash. Use the First Volley rule for all missile troops while muskets are know for their tenancy to miss fire bows can also become broken and men may run low on arrows slowing their rate of fire.
They can have any Fantastical rule except spellcaster and cleric/slayer
Skirmishes can replace Scouts as there is little or no difference. They can have any Fantastical rules except Spellcaster, Summoner and Cleric/Slayer.
Ravenous hordes should be used for undead and other fantastical troops types of little skill. They retain the fantastical option undead, venomous, hatred and fear.
Otherwise scratch forces for local defense should use the Clubmen profile. Fantastical Rules are not appropriate to Clubmen
These are my thoughts for combining these two closely related games I would appreciate your thoughts on this subject. I'll share my experiences as I get in games.
I've been eager to try Pikeman's Lament since I got it in early February. Several of us are fans of the Lion/Dragon Rampant system as my readers know. So Frank and I got together to give the game a try. Since I don't have enough for two 17th century armies we decided Frank would use his Kroot but use unit stats from Pikeman's Lament. Frank had Two units of Gallopers (Aggressive) one unit of Trotters, Two units of Dragoons, a unit of Commanded shot and two units of Clansmen. I made both commanders Luitenants with two traits Frank had Careless and Commanding.
We went with the Morning Attack I used a hedge and stone wall to stand in for field works with me as the defender and Frank as the attacker. I had two units of Pike, two units of shot, two units of Trotters and a unit of Forlorn Hope. My LT was a duelist and Inspiring. Frank piked the "I don't like the cut of his jib" committing himself to trying to kill my Forlorn Hope. I picked "beat the butchers bill" kill more points of troops than I loose.
Kroot clansmen come broiling out of the swamp on my flank held by the blue regiment
While Kroot Gallopers push forward with their dragoons harassing my men on the left (with the field works my Pike men proved largely safe form this limited fire.
Looking down the line of the field works as Frank threatens my flanks and my horsemen rush to meet the threat.
Thanks to some poor rolls on Franks part I make it and the first try at Caracole goes in...
The Trotters disrupt the Gallopers and throw them back though their casualties were fairly light.
First one and then...
a second unit of Kroot tribesmen hurl them selves at the Blue regiment I throw back the first but the second drives me back..
Then pursues and cuts my men down...
but the Blue regiment has just enough left in its death throws to force the Kroot back
Frank in the spirit of exploring the rules issues a challenge! my officer meet the Kroot commander and kills him hand to hand (it would have been a draw if I were not a duelist). Franks army survives the loss of its commander.
a turn latter the Kroot commander's unit attempts to gain revenge but at thrown back by my pikemen.
Dragoons bast away at the Gray regiment (which includes my commander) slowly picking it apart.
Another attempt by the Kroot beasts to over throw my pikes but they are able to they will make another effort before they finally break (tough fellows)
My commanders unit falls back under the galling fire of the Kroot Dragoons.
Fire form the Forlorn Hope Drives off the tribesmen with in our lines and the Krute troopers are withdrawn when frank rolls double 1s
The flank is secure and its time to counter attack.
Pike men see of the last unit of Kroot tribesmen...
Then fire first from the forlorn hope and then form the pistols of the trotters strike the Kroot Trotters
The Coup de grace is administered with a cavalry charge the wipes out the winged Kroot serving as Trotters. Frank has three units of skirmishers left and has lost more then half his army so we opt to call it a night. The game played well the only issue we had was the fact that the game uses the same mechanics as Dragon Rampant (the variant Frank knows best) but uses different language. Batter (DR) Vs. Wavering (TPL) they mean exactly the same thing but sound like they should mean something different.
Well the Challenge is completed. I finished 13th in a field of 96 originally 100 but 4 were culled for failure to paint anything in first month. Most importantly I did blast through my goal of 1500 Points, with a final post worth 175 points. The last post was a big unit of Pathan Tribes men for the Huzzah! Convention game.
These aren't the sort of figures I normally paint but they were a fun project and I am happy to help out the team for Huzzah!con. I'll do a more comprehensive review of the challenge latter.
John has picked up the new Aetius & Arthur supplement and we decided to try the retreat scenario from that book. I won the roll and opted to be the defender. My men start off with a fatigue marker each. I was playing Vikings this time and had two units of Warriors with banners. A unit of 8 Hearthguard and a unit of 4 Berserkers.
John's slingers run up and take the first shot but I save the few hits he managed (I used the Asgard ability to make his shot harder.
My Berserkers try to charge John's shield wall but he picked up my fatigue marker to shorten my movement. I fell short which was doubly bad since I had Frig ready to remove the marker once I was in combat.
John's Gall-Gaedhil charge my Berserkers and a savage clash ensues 7 Gall-Gaedhil die as do all 4 Berserkers.
The first clash of warriors ensues. I killed to of John's men and lost one of my own in hind sight I should have used Thor and hopefully knocked his unit below 10 figures but I was more concerned with getting men out alive.
Thus the main action of the day begins as my "Red Wolf" unit backs away...
and is chased. I keep playing it carefully fighting defensively especially as John is using side by side and saga abilities to roll giant fist fulls of dice. John does hurt my men but I manage to limit the damage.
With one turn to go I have moved my warlord over to make sure the "Red Wolves" can escape... My other Warrior unit and Hearthguard are with in easy distance of the table edge.
John's final assault drives in several additional warriors of mine fall though the unit survives. On my side of the turn I get everyone off the board. I won this one easily mostly because this scenario (unlike the others we have played) seems to lack something. The defender has to make about 4 turns of movement in 6 turns and that's not difficult to do some other wrinkle is needed to make it a more interesting game
As we enter the home stretch of the challenge I am please with my position. This year I won't crack the top ten but should be comfortably in the top twenty. I submitted two regiments of Imagi-Nation troops.
The First is the Haydenburg Regiment named for one of my reenacting mentors Jim Hayden. Jim would be please to be commemorated with a miniature regiment.
The Grand Duchy's army also grew with Regiment Dixon named for another reenacting mentor of mine. The Regiment will function as light/irregular infantry regiment something my friend Dwight excels at.
Finally I have been truly trounced in the 15mm side duel so a command stand an "observer form the Grand Duchy of D'Argent to some other army (exactly who's is not yet know.)
For Christmas my wife gave me an Ancestry DNA test. I won't say I found many surprises though there were a couple. Irish heritage dominates (my mother has long claimed to be 100% Irish) with the "Western Europe" chunk is the next biggest chunk this and the "Italian/Greek"is my almost certainly form my dad's French Canadian father. The "Great Britain" portion probably comes form my dad's Mother's family though some of that might be on moms side (some of those Irish folks have very English names)
The Italian Greek part was a bit of surprise though I believe Carriere is a name that originates in the south of France so Italian influences are unsurprising as is the Iberian influence. The Scandinavian trace is something one would expect in someone who's ancestors mostly come form the British Isles The Middle Eastern trace is interesting... I suspect its from very far back.
I've dropped one spot in the standing (Well done KeithS) but this total doesn't include anything form the bonus round so it might improve when those points are calculated. Two entries this week.